The end of the information, Tsiodra-Hardalia, was announced by the infectious disease specialist-representative of the Ministry of Health and the Deputy Minister of Civil Protection, during today’s press conference.
Specifically, they said, by the end of the week will be published daily announcement from the Ministry of Health, and from 1 to June once a week.
In fact, in his last speech, Mr. Tsiodras used dramatic tones, emphasizing that if there was no lock down we would have 13,865 deaths (!), While he tried to justify the contradictions and the fact that many times he became a pawn in the hands of political power. , emphasizing that everything was in progress and that is why the data was changing.
He ended up with verses of a poem, which claimed that it belonged to Odysseus Elytis, but, in the end, it was not:
I can be happy with the simplest things and the smallest.
And with the life of the everyday.
It’s enough for me that the weeks have Sundays.
It is enough for me that the years keep Christmas for their end. That the winters have stone, snowy houses.
I know how to discover the hidden stone shops in their hiding places.
It’s enough that four people love me. Very…
It’s enough for me to love four people. Very…
I only spend my breath on them.
I’m not afraid to remember.
I don’t care if they remember me.
I can still cry.
And where do I sing… sometimes που
There are music that fascinates me.
And scents that fascinate me…
COORDINATOR: Good evening from the Ministry of Health. The briefing by Deputy Minister of Civil Protection and Crisis Management Nikos Hardalias and the representative of the Ministry of Health for the new coroner Professor Sotiris Tsiodras begins.
Before giving the floor to Mr. Tsiodras, let us inform you that the information on the development of COVID-19 disease will now be made in a written announcement by the Ministry of Health and will return depending on the epidemiological situation in the country.
Professor, you have the floor.
S. TSIODRAS: Good evening. To date, more than 5,600,000 laboratory-confirmed cases of the new coronavirus have been recorded worldwide. More than 2,394,000 of our fellow human beings, while infected with the virus, recovered and recovered, while 38,532 deaths have been recorded worldwide. Brazil, the United States, Peru, Mexico and India record more deaths per day.
Today we are announcing 10 new cases of the new virus in the country, 8 with a possible link to a known case, while the rest are being investigated. The total number of cases is 2,892, of which 55% are men. 628 are considered travel-related from abroad and 1,644, 57%, are related to an already known case.
18 of our fellow citizens are being treated intubated. Their average age is 69 years. 4 are women and the rest are men. 83.3% have an underlying disease or are over 70 years of age.
101 patients have been discharged from the ICU.
Finally, we have another recorded death and 173 deaths in total in the country. 52 were women, 30%, and the rest were men. The median age of our deceased fellow citizens was 76 years and 94.8% had an underlying disease and age 70 and over.
A total of 160,991 clinical samples have been tested.
Our country responded quickly and without precedent to the emergency conditions concerning the virus. In early January, the virus was first reported at a meeting of scientists at the National Agency for Public Health, and when we referred to the new virus as a possible major threat, we faced some harsh criticism, because until then little data was enough to substantiate it. a serious threat to the world.
All this time we have been vigilantly waiting, watching the developments and the effort for the best possible protection of the population in a lot of big battles. As for the supply of protective equipment, the “war on masks”, as the American network CNN typically called it, the strengthening of laboratory control, the strengthening of Intensive Care Units, the supply of drugs with the data up to then.
The scientific committee analyzed the developments and, in the midst of uncertainty, suggested the best possible further interventions, therapeutic algorithms, community protection measures, for our loved ones, for vulnerable groups.
Our homeland managed, with the patience of all of us, to get through this first phase of the virus. To flatten and reduce the epidemic curve, with comparatively far fewer losses than other much more “ready” health countries.
The participation of the people in this painful and ambitious effort was catalytic. Our numbers, which tell the truth, say that the measures, along with the painful ban, led to an 80% reduction in the spread of the virus and were the main reason we did not mourn more losses in our country.
The team of our epidemiologists and the Committee of Experts, which works at the Medical School of EKPA and the head of the Assessment Team, Associate Professor of Epidemiology, Mrs. Sypsa, informed me that based on our mathematical estimates, we had one thing in our country. of 1% of the Greek population. The results appear to be close to the actual numbers with the data so far from initial antibody studies. In anticipation of the final results, I will tell you today preliminary results from two studies.
A study involving volunteer blood donors and conducted by the National Blood Donation Center and the team of Messrs. Katsivelas and Stamoulis, has so far examined samples from 3,400 blood donors and found 24 positives to date, ie 0.7%. The study of another 6,600 blood donors is expected to be completed, so that we have a number close to 10,000.
In a second study that studies samples from residual serums, it concerns the months of March and April and is conducted by the University of Thessaly with coordinator Professor Mr. Hatzichristodoulou in collaboration with other Universities in the country, from 2,569 samples examined to date we had 9 positive samples, ie 0% , 35%.
This is the huge success of Greece and the Greeks. Based on these initial results, much less than 1% of the population became infected.
You will forgive me, but I must also mention another success of our Homeland. A total of 173 deaths have been reported today. According to the information I have from Professor Mrs. Sypsa, with the best possible scenario regarding the mortality of the virus, ie 0.55% and without the strict restrictive measures, ie a reduction of the population contacts by about 10%, the number of deaths would have an average value of 13,685 deaths, while with a 20% reduction in contacts it would be 7,015 deaths. I do not mention the worst-case scenarios, because even if some measures are taken slowly, of course, we would take them, as has happened in other countries. But then it would be too late.
On May 26, a total of 16 deaths per million population were recorded in Greece compared to 815 in Belgium, 574 in Spain, always per million population, 555 in the United Kingdom and 544 per million population in Italy. If I forgot the mathematical estimates and in our country we had about 500 deaths per million, less than what I am telling you, we would expect about 5,400 deaths.
The return to normalcy has begun with caution. The virus still exists, it has not lost its dispersal property, especially when it finds the right conditions it spreads easily. When I have symptoms of the virus, I need to be tested, alerted, isolated, and promptly treated.
As a global scientific community – the whole earth has become one – we have lived and are living in difficult situations with millions of people infected with the virus and hundreds of thousands more unable to do so. We need the rapid mobilization of the health authorities, but also of the entire medical community, the leadership, our Civil Protection, which has helped us a lot in this battle against the virus, but also the researchers, to identify the best methods of diagnosis. prevention and treatment. It’s already happening. We continue to analyze data on the virus, on hospitalizations, on their outcome, on the use of drugs in our country.
Significant research has been and continues to be done on the fight against the virus. Research with transparency rules, a survey that should serve the public health for the final product, whether it is called a diagnostic tool, or treatment, or a vaccine, will provide non-exclusive licenses and licenses and will provide access to the simple people.
At the same time, vigilance and vigilance are important for any second wave involving this virus. Procedures for tracking, intervening, isolating, are important and in these he helped us a lot and will help us and will continue to help us in the future the Ministry of Civil Protection.
The Ministry of Health remains in contact with the World Health Organization, with the Greek Medical Companies on general patient safety issues related to the virus and will continue to monitor developments. We must now, in addition to the virus, think more and more about other areas of health, about the need to continue caring for patients, whether they have passed the virus and managed it, or the rest, who are at risk for infectious and non-communicable diseases. , from other infections such as pneumonia, tuberculosis, HIV, influenza and other infectious diseases, legionella, which is also a summer disease, and from chronic diseases such as heart, lung diseases, malignancies, diabetes and others, chronic medication is a priority.
This approach will involve risk assessment for all areas of health within the coronary environment and of course patient safety – health, that is, as a single narrative – from Primary to Hospital. Urgent care should continue to be provided at a high level. Gradually returning to fearless access to care is a top priority.
As far as I know, the Ministry of Health and the General Secretariat for Health Services are implementing a quality certification plan in the field of health, using special indicators and protocols harmonized with international guidelines.
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that there is a significant reduction in vaccinations worldwide from multiple sources, approaching 50% in the under-2 age group and exceeding 70 in the elderly. The Ministry of Health issued a scientific information circular to the competent bodies on this issue, on the topic of updating vaccination recommendations for children and adults during the period of the pandemic.
From 1 to February the Minister of Health Basil made me Kikilias price and appointed representative of the Ministry for the new coronavirus, I started with my scientific work and updating of Greek society on the developments concerning the pandemic.
As my teachers and I learned, in Greece and abroad, I remained a student rather than a Professor, in a situation with constant uncertainties, which I presented to you from time to time. Some have spoken of contradictions, without following international scientific developments, without knowing the real facts, without using scientific arguments.
I tried not to get involved in such a dialogue, I did not want to give reasons for the reproduction of non-scientific discourse. In unique moments of history, perhaps the most difficult moment after World War II, it was very easy to lie to the truth, to reproduce the lie as truth, to present the paranoid as logical. Such behaviors did not help, nor do they help, nor will they help in the future. The modern world has been called upon to face the threat of difficult conditions, in a time when the scientific history of the new virus has quickly and globally turned into political history, in an effort to bring societies back to normalcy. During this period, the concept of the social end of the prohibitive, as opposed to the scientific and with rules, found suitable ground.
With the sole provision of honesty and effort to scientifically analyze the data, and with the help of a Committee of 26 Experts, in which I participate under the Secretary General of Public Health, Mr. Prezerakos, and the support and contribution of the leadership of the Ministry of Health, Ministers Kikilias and Mr. Kontozamanis, as well as the invaluable assistance from the Civil Protection and the Minister Mr. Hardalias, I tried for 4 months to give useful information, to answer the questions posed by our fellow citizens through journalists and, sometimes, to inspire from my side a society that was anxious.
I have repeated many times what is the only fact in Science: the uncertainty, the honesty of saying, “I don’t know.”
All this time I didn’t feel anything different from all of you, just a man addressing his fellow human beings. A man with weaknesses, a man who of course should not be seen as a role model. Unexpectedly and unexpectedly, I found myself close to you, so close to you, through the TV lens and in the middle of a ban, and I felt close to you and let’s not communicate in a natural way. Communication between people is a spiritual asset and a consolation in the secret war with the unknown, with our own worst enemy, whom we embraced in a strange way, which we “honored” by mentioning annoying numbers and statistics. In our country, despite the losses, let me say and repeat, he did not have the last word and that is why I do not do him the favor of referring to him again. Life will continue to win.
The most difficult period was that of the ban, the lockdown. A brave and necessary suggestion of the scientists and a decision of the State, but after it was observed, it was also a decision of all of us:
The ordinary people who stayed at home to protect their parents, grandparents, the elderly, vulnerable groups.
Parents who stayed home with their children, anxious about their future work.
Our fellow citizens who did not stay at home, because they had to work all this time for all of us.
The invisible heroes in hospitals and in the community.
We all endured together. In this first phase we limited the transmission of the virus. Congratulations to all of you.
Four months later, we are gradually returning to normal. Science is doing everything it can in a grueling road race to find effective treatments and, as quickly as possible, a safe and effective vaccine.
In this road race, of course, both as a scientist and as scientists and members of the Commission, I will remain and will remain close to you.
I will help the Minister and the Commission on issues related to the new virus in the coming weeks, and I will gradually address issues related to my favorite patients, my students at the University that I saw yesterday. I also want to gradually return to the rest of my duties.
Now is the time for our epidemiological picture to be good, so good for all of you and you don’t need this regular update. The actual reproductive rate of the pandemic, according to the EODY epidemiologist, Mr. Lytras, an invaluable helper in our entire endeavor, the actual R was 0.33 last night, well below 1.
We will now have a daily written report by May 31st, and if all goes well, once a week in June you will be notified by the Ministry of Health with a written notice of the progression of the disease, just as is done every year with the flu. Of course for the new virus we will continue our continuous epidemiological vigilance and surveillance throughout the summer. Let’s hope that our behavior will remain good by adhering to the rules of hygiene, with the measures we have been saying for so long, and let us hope that by adhering to these measures, we do not have to go back to emergency or regular television updates.
I hope we all continue to move forward together, to continue to succeed. We arrived with great difficulty, far away, to allow for any setbacks.
I will keep your love that I received this time and I would like your wishes to accompany me, such as the one I received from a children’s club with special skills, which reminded me that “the angels on Earth from their own partisan think of us” . Not me, all of us.
COORDINATOR: We thank you, Professor. Mr. Hardalias has the floor.
N. HARDALIAS: Good evening from the Civil Protection. We are in a new phase of our effort, with the resumption of most activities starting or being launched. In this context, as the Professor said, the updates will continue, but not with the extraordinary character we have had so far. We have largely returned to our new daily lives. For any issue that arises, there will be timely information from us, the Civil Protection, but also from the competent Ministries.
We are no longer in the lockdown period, so there is a need to be here every afternoon, as has been the case all this time. And we hope that this need will never arise again. If you see us updating with Mr. Tsiodras every day, it will mean that things have become difficult again. However, we believe that it will not happen if, apart from the developments in the medical field, the State functions in a coordinated manner as it has done all this time and all citizens act responsibly, as the vast majority did in this unprecedented period for all of us.
Next Monday, Municipal, kindergartens and nurseries will open. It has also been explained by Mr. Tsiodras because this is good for the children and their families. The rules have also been announced by the Minister of Education.
More specifically, Primary and Kindergartens will reopen on Monday , June 1 , and classes will be extended until Friday, June 26. School and kindergarten departments will operate with up to 15 students at a time and with a distance of 1.5 meters on the desks, which will have the same orientation. If the number of students exceeds 15 then the department will be divided into two subdivisions and will operate in rotation. Monday, Wednesday, Friday one Tuesday, Thursday the other. And next week the opposite. If the students do not exceed 15 then the department will operate normally.
There will be antiseptics in the rooms, cleaning is provided twice a day and during the operation of the school and after that, breaks are provided at different times to reduce congestion and the operation of the canteens is prohibited. There is also natural ventilation of the rooms, while the use of the mask is optional for teachers and students at school and on school buses.
Special instructions of EODY will be sent in the coming days to all structures of Primary education and a significant part of the first day will be dedicated to the explanation of these instructions.
There is also the possibility of a student being absent on the basis of a simple responsible statement from the parent or guardian about the existence of a person in the home who belongs to the high-risk or sick groups.
From 1st to June 2020 opened normally, with the primary schools and the country’s kindergartens and childcare and nurseries. The rules for the reopening of kindergartens are exactly the same as those for primary schools, but also for kindergartens. Municipal kindergartens and nurseries operate normally until July 31, 2020.
Health rules have also been set for how we move in schools, restaurants, on beaches, in churches – today we even celebrate the Resurrection – Public Transport. From their observance it depends on continuing the good course we have so far.
One thing is for sure, we didn’t mess with the pandemic. The virus will be with us for a long time and does not even raise toys, as has been proven in many countries around the world. Fortunately, we avoided experiencing nightmarish situations. We need to show the same seriousness, the same discipline in the next phases.
In these two months of daily communication, we have tried without hesitation to honestly give the real facts and explain what we are doing. One may agree or disagree with the first or second handling. In one way or another. No one has the infallibility and we are always open to criticism which is an integral part of our own Republic. But we were always honest and never hid the reality. We consider honesty to be the key to building a true, trusting relationship.
My dear fellow citizens, ladies and gentlemen,
We are in the fourth week of the second phase of gradual de-escalation and lifting of restrictions.
From the difficult “we stay home”, we have moved on to the equally difficult “stay safe”. Staying safe, that is, adhering to the terms of personal hygiene and protection is the big bet that will lead us definitively and irreversibly from now on to our new daily life.
Today, we close with this joint interview with Mr. Tsiodras, 72 days – from March 16 – almost daily information. Rest assured that with the Professor we will continue our excellent cooperation behind the cameras at 18:00 every day, watching the developments every day. After all, it remains our only bet of responsibility, which from the first moment we were invited to manage and communicate with you.
From tomorrow, therefore, our communication enters a new phase adapted to the new data that is slowly being formed.
A circle closes, but we remain vigilant, we remain vigilant, we remain consistent in following the rules and instructions, and we remain responsible in our daily lives.
My dear fellow citizens, ladies and gentlemen,
From the Civil Protection and from the hospitable Ministry of Health, good strength, good continuity to all of us.
We stay safe, we come out winners.
In Civil Protection we do not stop. We remain vigilant. Always ready in every neighborhood, in every village, in every city, in every corner of our Homeland. Thank you.
D. VLEPAKI: The Prime Minister today invited German tourists to visit Greece from June 15. Has the Commission suggested from which other countries we can safely accept tourists? Are there countries that the Commission considers prohibited for tourists in our country?
S. TSIODRAS: There is a special subcommittee, which of course operates within the Commission, and deals with the issue of tourism in general and epidemiological criteria, with which one should allow or say that it is good to put the trip from and to these areas, as was the case at the beginning of the epidemic.
You understand that it is not easy, it is difficult. Fortunately, at present most countries with restrictive measures have managed to greatly reduce the circulation of the virus and the spread in their community. And this, of course, is shown by the results of the audits made by the Ministry of Civil Protection and the Minister.
I do not want to say that entry or exit from the country will be prohibited. Certainly there are many countries that have a similar epidemiological situation with our country and as time goes on this situation will be even better.
And that is why the answer to the question of the dear journalist is dynamic. We cannot now say for sure what those countries will be. But there are definitely countries that are already in some good epidemiological data, and I think those countries will grow over time. We can inform you more in writing when we have more from the subcommittee that discusses this issue. In fact, I think there is a meeting, right now that we are talking about the criteria.
Because you understand one region geographically in one country, it may have more cases than another. The typical example is Spain, which at the height of the epidemic had 11-12% of the population affected in the Madrid region and only 2% in the Mallorca region.
So they are not just countries, they are also regions within countries and if you remember at the beginning of the epidemic the city of Wuhan and then the province of Hubei were in the travel instructions.
I expect, especially if there is a second wave of the virus, I hope that not in the summer but in the fall, there will be corresponding travel guidelines, from countries that will live a large or high second wave. I avoid it, but I do not rule it out.
D. PROCEPT: Professor, can local quarantines operate in tourist destinations in the event of an outbreak? Is the Commission on the list of countries for which flights will be released? And what is expected of them with a large number of cases, such as Britain or the United States? After all, does opening up to foreign tourism have a scientific basis or are the reasons only economic?
S. TSIODRAS: Yes, I think I partially answered this question with what I told you earlier about countries and the definition of countries that would be safe to travel to. Certainly the dimensions of the tourism issue are multiple and whether countries like Britain or the United States currently have areas with a fairly large increase in cases, but there are also areas where the number of cases is declining in the United States and even in England. In England there are areas where the epidemic is gradually declining and other areas that have more cases such as some areas of northern England, the northern United Kingdom.
So how do you characterize an area and what epidemiological data do you use, recorded cases, deaths recorded, the number of tests performed, the reproductive rate of the epidemic, which is not published by most countries?
So he wants a thorough scientific evaluation. And this we will continue to do in the Commission, together with the travel medicine office of the National Agency for Public Health, which has amazing scientists who have been dealing with travel medicine for years, Mrs. Paul and her team. And we will evaluate the data and decide whether a travel guide should come out.
Now whether the opening of tourism has an economic, political, social character or comes from scientific data, I will tell you the decision of the European Control Center and the European Commission, which says that from June 15 onwards it should with someone way to open European borders at least.
I don’t think it will be done without attention to epidemiological data, it is impossible at the moment with the fuss and the whole operation of this coronavirus epidemic around the world, some country to say that I open it only for financial reasons. No country has done that.
Public Health has come out ahead of the economy in all aspects of life and at the moment the economy and politics are following the successful implementation of the restrictive measures and their lifting. I think that’s how we will move.
We will be helping, as scientists, in any scientific issues that will be raised. And of course the decisions will be made by the State, but I think the guide in this political handling of the epidemic worldwide and even if you allow me to make a comment here. In some countries, no one expected it. You see, I said the most “ready” health countries. From some countries that we did not consider so ready, this timely implementation of the restrictive measures led to better results.
And I think that’s the most important thing for me. That Public Health remains in the service of the citizens and the people, cooperates with the State and sets scientific rules.
V. AGGOURIDI: Mr. Tsiodra , we are, as you and Mr. Hardalias said, in the next phase of the fight against the virus. Given the lack of a vaccine and specific treatment, however, what is it that will signal that we are in view of a setback? What are the areas that worry you the most and what can endanger our well-being?
S. TSIODRAS: I think we have discussed some things many times in this update. It is definitely an increase in the number of cases, an increase in local epidemics, an increase in imports and hospitalizations and ICUs, an increase in deaths.
Indicators that we have used in the past, the real R0, which we are monitoring on a daily basis during this period and its increases beyond 1. Because above 1 is where the epidemic begins and spreads and does not stop easily. I will remind you here that these things are dynamic and one is constantly watching them.
All of these parameters have to do with possible recurrence of the epidemic. I hope it doesn’t happen. But we are vigilant. This means being on the lookout for epidemiological surveillance, that is, being careful to detect such epidemics and especially epidemics involving vulnerable groups.
These remain the focus of our attention, even after this successful course. Immigrants, Roma, people living in special conditions, nursing homes, our hospitals, health care facilities, kidney patients, prisons.
All this has its peculiarity. We need to be vigilant, watch out for any epidemics in these places and of course in society.
We are also concerned about finding cases in which we cannot identify the source of transmission, this indeterminate source of transmission.
And this is an important, important parameter, and we are even more prepared to deal with it now, and I think it is very important that this process of tracking contacts, which we have successfully done these days with the help of Civil Protection and the isolation of cases, continues. to stop the transmission of the virus.
N. VERGOU: Mr Tsiodra, the World Health Organization is suspending research on patients with COVID-19 chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, as the benefit has been shown to be less than the risk. In Greece, how many patients have received this treatment in-hospital, how many out-of-hospital and how are they monitored? How many healthcare providers, as you have announced, are receiving treatment? Do you receive it? What do the data on drug use in our country so far show? Do they coincide with the Lancet study cited by WHO? Will we join the WHO and stop the studies in our country or will we continue to administer chloroquine, both to patients in and out of the hospital, and to health professionals? After all, what treatment is gaining ground for COVID-19?
S. TSIODRAS: Multiple questions. I felt like I was being “shot” with all these questions. Let me tell you, the whole treatment of coronary heart disease is a state of great uncertainty, which has multiple small details and aspects in which the journalist refers to some of them, not all of them, but I will try to develop it for you soon, so as not to tire you. .
First, a study by Lancet, which analyzes observational data, is not a randomized clinical trial of tens of thousands of patients who see the damage as more beneficial than the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, the two “cousins” one means life time long enough, the other much less, 5 days each and 30-60 days the other, which means that they remain in your body for a long time. Drugs that with laboratory data are effective for the coronary artery. So we have laboratory data support, right?
We do not yet have randomized clinical data. So, this meta-analysis comes out that analyzes a lot of information from many parts of the world. In some areas other doses, in some areas other therapeutic regimens and sees this signal. A “danger” signal.
WHO, therefore, decides to put on a pause in some way. He doesn’t stop her. He asks for the data to be re-evaluated by the specific branch of clinical study, which he does with other drugs, to see what data he has. Because the WHO study is a randomized clinical study. So it is a study that will give us data, which we can believe much more than the observation data of the Lancet study.
So the WHO doesn’t stop it. WHO says: I will look into it and until I look at it and be sure, since I have this first study, a big study with tens of thousands of cases I want to be sure.
What is Greece doing? Greece has adopted this scheme in its therapeutic algorithm and immediately after the publication of Lancet’s study the same afternoon I send an email myself and three other members of the Commission to each other and say we should meet extraordinarily to see if this data is enough to change our therapeutic algorithm.
And we will discuss it immediately, and even today an attempt is being made for a teleconference, to see if we need to change the algorithm with this data or if we have to wait. We have very few patients in the hospital anymore, patients who have been treated with this drug in the hospital, there are not many at the moment.
Now, whether or not it helps based on the Greek data, we have the Patient Register that has been completed and will be evaluated quickly. We have the pharmaceutical vigilance system of the National Medicines Agency, in which any side effects have been reported, from drugs that have been used so far. Only 3 side effects were related to chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, none of which had cardiac complications. Two others involved other drugs.
The pharmacovigilance system is very important and this is done very well in clinical trials. In the clinical study, for example thanks to remdeshivir, the other drug currently used and preferred by people involved in the treatment of coronavirus and given in Greece to more than 50 patients with a clinical study, there was an unwanted reference energy, with small liver involvement.
It is important that the journalist continues to record the side effects and to continue to record any side effects with pharmacovigilance systems. However, we did not have any signs of side effects from the use of chloroquine. It remains to be confirmed by analyzing all our data.
As for the prophylactic administration of the drug to healthcare providers, it was done individually, it was voluntary, it was not done in a large number of patients and because there is always fear when giving a drug, it was done under strict medical supervision with their doctor or physician. Infectious disease specialist of the hospital. It has been given strictly under administration, in some local epidemics with patients with serious health problems, such as in nursing homes and kidney patients, again under strict medical supervision, without serious side effects and the results are evaluated.
If I took her, I didn’t take this treatment as a precaution. I have had repeated exposures in patients with coronary heart disease, but always with protection measures. And I thought it would be more appropriate and helpful to get treatment if I developed the disease.
But I want to say here that treatment is something that is evolving. Chloroquine is a cheap drug, a drug that can be taken orally, so it was selected from most countries in the world without hard data and of course from our Homeland.
I think the full evaluation of the drugs will be done with the results of randomized clinical trials, so it is too early to condemn it and the World Health Organization has not condemned it. He just put a stop to the evaluation. And we’ll have to wait a little longer before we say the final word about chloroquine.
It seems that at the moment the treatment is on two levels, it will probably be combined. That is, it will contain antiviral and anti-inflammatory drugs. And it seems that it will be useful, maybe even early, it has not been proven yet, but studies are being done for it all over the world, that if you take it faster it will probably help more.
In most of the studies you mentioned, treatment was given when the patient was already heavy. So another reef, to evaluate the benefit of a drug. I hope I answered everything.
V. VENIZELOS: Professor, we can state as a working hypothesis the possibility that Greece belongs to the countries with high rates of asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 disease, therefore there is a serious possibility that the new colonist will circulate somewhat more widely in our country, but through asymptomatic and mildly ill patients? Is a sufficient percentage of asymptomatic and mildly ill patients with COVID-19 also the reason why we have not seen visible consequences from the mass rallies in squares and beaches in our country?
S. TSIODRAS: Yes, another question with several scientific aspects from the dear journalist. I will say here, again soon, that it seems that a percentage that we do not know well, people who have the virus are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic.
What is the difference between the two? The symptomatologist has no symptoms and will develop. It seems that a large percentage of these people who do not have symptoms, at some point develop symptoms. There is a third category, the category of mild symptoms. That is, those who have a paycheck, a myalgia and a sore throat, are not controlled and have the virus.
None of the studies I have seen so far have fully evaluated all the symptoms of the virus. Because in the beginning we said fever and cough. And you see, later, about a month and a half later, the WHO adds symptoms, such as anemia, if you don’t smell good – it may be due to other reasons – myalgias, chills.
And I don’t think anyone can answer 100% of the question of the dear journalist. From 5 to 80%. And mild symptoms in up to 80% of patients. So we can’t be sure.
What gives us this scientific assurance? Antibodies. With the antibodies we see that what he says is not true. Because with antibodies we expected a much higher percentage of people to have positive antibodies. It seems that even this, the latest data of this week that we are going through the disease mildly, raises a sufficient number of antibodies. So we would expect to see some more percentages of antibodies in our general population.
And I think that what we estimated with our proper supervision, with our accurate hard data, hospitalizations, deaths, ICUs, intubated and with our mathematical models, is confirmed by the estimates of antibodies so far. So that’s probably not the case.
Now because the crowds in the squares that were of course and the anxiety of all of us did not raise the R, it was because we had lowered it very low. The epidemic, the virus had dropped to very low levels. That was the success of us all.
This was the success of the “I live at home” movement, I pay attention to my contacts, I avoid contacts with vulnerable groups. This whole thing is reflected there.
So the social end of the epidemic, as I call it, these gatherings fortunately took place at a time when the virus was not widespread and I hope we will be careful because the virus still exists, it has not disappeared. And of course, with the opening of tourism, more viruses can come from outside countries. That is why the strong epidemiological criteria will be used and examined, so we must remain vigilant. Anyone with symptoms should be monitored, isolated, and the virus transmitted to the affected areas.
E. TSIVIKA: Professor, you have recently given us all the arguments in favor of the reopening of primary schools. In what time frame have these benefits been identified? Since it’s only 4 weeks, 20 days, do you think there will really be a decisive benefit for children, parents, society and the economy in relation to the potential risks? Is there a picture of the percentage of High School and Lyceum students who have not returned to their desks despite their reopening?
S. TSIODRAS: I think I said in this analysis that I had done, that there is no clear answer in favor of one side or the other. We are more in favor of one side, because we see that the data in favor of one side prevail. And it’s not just Greek data, it’s global data, right? And they are adopted by most of the scientific community in the world. And they are adopted by many countries, as I said then. And they concern other parameters, apart from the economy to which the colleague refers.
Parameters concerning children’s mental and intellectual health, even if they are a few days old. And I remain in these arguments. I don’t think I have to repeat them.
As for what percentage of children go to school and what percentage will go and if this benefit of short-term attendance at school outweighs the potential risks of spreading the epidemic, I reiterate that this is the best time based on our epidemiological data.
Whether someone will go to school and fear the risk of dispersal and that this will have an impact on a vulnerable group in their home, in their family environment, we have predicted. And we gave instructions for this, with a simple license, stating that in my family environment there is a person vulnerable group, without it being nominal and not exposing the child to the school environment.
As far as the percentage of Gymnasiums and Lyceums is concerned, this is certainly lower in the classes of the 3rd Lyceum that are being prepared for the Panhellenic Games and anyway these days they were preparing for their exams under normal conditions.
I know, I had a personal communication with the Minister of Education, that around 50% -60% are watching and it is a significant percentage. And the percentage that doesn’t follow is definitely involved in this online learning.
I think these rules will slowly accompany us, especially if there is a second wave of the coronavirus epidemic in the fall. And I think it’s important at this time when we have good epidemiological data, to do this exercise which is not an experiment at all, I think it has more benefits than harm.
COORDINATOR: Before we close, we would like to thank the accredited health editors for their professionalism and excellent cooperation, as well as, of course, the technicians of the television stations, especially ERT, for covering this information.
Thank you very much.
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